Israel’s 60th Birthday


Finkelstein in Edinburgh UK: The Israel/Palestine conflict by Dave

In this lecture at Edinburgh University Norman Finkelstein tackles the most controversial topics in the Israel – Palestine conflict. Examining what the record and world consensus shows he explains that most of the controversy is fake and that the issues are actually very simple to understand.


Norman Finkelstein: Controversies and the Israel / Palestine conflict

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  • Recorded 25/01/2008 Edinburgh

“Peace will come to Palestine and the Middle East when Israel finally obeys international law and withdraws to its legal borders.” Finkelstein Quoting Former President Carter

Picture from BBC

“God helps those who help themselves”
Finkelstein on current Gaza Situation(Photo from the BBC not under cc license).

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Norman Finkelstein: Podcast from Canada by Dave

Israel and Palestine: Roots of conflict, prospects for peace

Norman Finkelstein lecture recorded by Canadian-Palestinian Educational Exchange (CEPAL). Introduced by a Lebanese Palestinian refugee, Norman discusses the history and end of American Zionism. With this he looks at many issues including how the record has changed about events in 1948. Its now generally accepted among serious scholars that what took place was ethnic cleansing this is important in 2008 as this is the 60th anniversary of Israeli independence and many “celebrations” of this ethnic cleansing are taking place.

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Israel Sixty Years On: Partition or Apartheid by Dave

“If the day comes when the two-state solution collapses, and we face a South African-style struggle for equal voting rights for the Palestinians in the (occupied) territories, then, as soon as that happens, the State of Israel is finished. The Jewish organisations which were our power base in America will be the first to come out against us, because they will say they cannot support a state that does not support democracy and equal voting rights for all its residents.” Ehud Olmert

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert was just back from the Annapolis summit where President George W. Bush tried to reboot the moribund Israeli-Palestinian peace talks. More importantly, last week was also the 60th anniversary of the United Nations vote that divided British-ruled Palestine into a Jewish and an Arab state. That promised Arab state still doesn’t exist, of course, but if the peace talks fail to produce it in the end, Olmert told the newspaper Ha’Aretz, then Israel is “finished.”

“If the day comes when the two-state solution collapses,” Olmert said, “and we face a South African-style struggle for equal voting rights for the Palestinians in the (occupied) territories, then, as soon as that happens, the State of Israel is finished. The Jewish organisations which were our power base in America will be the first to come out against us, because they will say they cannot support a state that does not support democracy and equal voting rights for all its residents.”

It was an extraordinary thing for a right-wing Israeli politician to say: Israelis usually erupt in fury if anybody suggests a comparison between their country and apartheid-era South Africa. However, Olmert wasn’t talking about the country as it is now — seven million people, of whom about five and a half million are Jews — but about the country that would exist if the peace talks fail definitively and the four million Palestinians in the occupied territories remain under Israeli control indefinitely.

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Israel at 60: Birthday Threats – ethnic cleansing in 2008 as in 1948? by Dave

“whoever speaks for 60 years about the ‘catastrophe’ befalling them will suffer a real catastrophe in the end.” Avi Dichter

Israeli Public Security Minister Avi Dichter threatens Israeli Arabs who refuse to “celebrate” the creation of Israel with ethnic cleansing. His bold statement “whoever speaks for 60 years about the ‘catastrophe’ befalling them will suffer a real catastrophe in the end” is horrific in nature. He knows that Palestinians refer to the events of 1948 as the Nakba or catastrophe because it is when the local population was ethnically cleansed to create an independent Jewish State. Dichter is therefore warning Israeli Arabs boycotting the celebrations that if they continue they will experience the ‘catastrophe’ which they speak of – implying to them that they will be ethnically cleansed from Israel. He instructs that “they will celebrate Israel’s 70th and 80th anniversaries.” Its worth remembering that Dichter had to cancel a trip to the UK this December for fear of being arrested for war crimes.

Israel National News: Israeli Arabs Boycott 60th Anniversary of Jewish State 17/12/2007

BBC News: Israeli Avoids UK Arrest Threat



No Reason for Zionists to Celebrate on Israel’s 60th Birthday by Dave

If Israel was a 60-year old man having a birthday party, he wouldn’t be surrounded by an adoring family and neighbours, looking back with pride to a lifetime of honourable achievement. He would be a Mafioso, rich from crime and honoured by a few faded celebrities and politicians, feared and despised by the great majority of those with any direct experience of him.

At 60, Israel’s popularity amongst the general public is at an all-time low across the world. A survey in November 2006 concluded that “Israel is the Worst Brand in the World”; Global Research reported findings across 35 countries “that Israel is suffering from the worst public image among all countries of the world.” This was no mere blip: all recent surveys of popular opinion show that opposition to Israeli apartheid and terrorism is majority opinion. Well over half of all Europeans think Israel poses the “biggest threat to world peace,” according to a poll commissioned in October
2003 across Europe by the European Commission.

In the US, the Israeli Government has recognised its pariah status among the thinkingIsrael's Porno PR and humane sections of that population, and has launched a campaign to boost Israel among what it considers to be a more amenable demographic – American soft porn buyers. Leading Zionists have suggested a wave of European anti-Semitism is responsible, but the reasons for the widespread perception of Israel as a threat to peace, supported even by a poll commissioned by the pro-Israel Daily Telegraph, are not hard to find: mass killings, air attacks on the imprisoned population of Gaza, invasion of neighbours, and an atrocious apartheid system which denies fundamental economic, social and political rights to all non-Jews.

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Occupation 101 – Palestine / Israel Conflict by Dave

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An Issue Of Justice: Origins Of The Israel/Palestine Conflict – Norman Finkelstein by Dave
December 29, 2007, 10:25 pm
Filed under: 1948, Apartheid, Audio, Ethnic Cleansing, History, Israel, Lebanon, Lecture, Nakba, Norman Finkelstein, Palestine

Without a doubt this is probably the best lecture I’ve heard on the Israel Palestine conflict.

The facts are not complicated.  Finkelstein dispels the ideological fog surrounding this historic conflict.  Finkelstein lays out the history of the Israel/Palestine conflict with clarity and passion, arguing that any other similar conflict would be perfectly understood, yet this one exists beneath a blanket of ideological fog.  Finkelstein cuts through the fog with indisputable historical facts, optimistic that the struggle is winnable, and that it is simply an issue of justice.

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